He was only 8 Years old....Pretty Disturbing Pics

Crapenstein wrote:

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That's not real, is it? If it is, that's some serious fucked up shit.

Seems pretty Real to me and Unfortunately that does happen, Regardless of Age.

I find this hard to believe - but if it is true then it is disgusting.
Sk
It's a hoax guys -
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Though they do still chop peoples' hands off for stealing which still sucks.

So the kid is a Carny? That's still fucked up. But not as bad as we originally thought.

The title of this thread is rather disgusting. I'm a Muslim, and it's insulting to me.

Iran is pretty much hated by MOST Muslims. It and Saudi Arabia for following really strict, extremist, hypocritical, nonsensical laws claiming that they're in the name of Islam. What you guys should do is inform yourselves of what's out there, instead of believing everything flaunted in your face.

In Muslim law, a person of age, caught stealing, must have his hand cut. If a person of age commits murder, he is to be beheaded, if the parents of the victim did not grant him forgiveness. If you ask me, these are perfectly reasonable. A poor man retorting to stealing is still not an excuse. There are thousands of other ways to retort to.

Extremism in ANY religion is wrong. Making it sound like it's only there in Islam, is ridiculous. Stuff shown in the media is laughable AT BEST. Seeing people actually believe that crap, and actually hating the religion of Islam solely based on that propaganda, is sad, to say the least.

Educate yourselves.

"In Muslim law, a person of age, caught stealing, must have his hand cut... If you ask me, these are perfectly reasonable."

So when you say hands cut...do you mean like a cut - or do you mean cut off - cause sorry, but someone stealing food cause they are hungry should not be disabled for life.
That sounds kind of "extreme" to me...but then what do I know...I'm just an ignorant Westener.

Sk

It's the Sharia and only the most vile and fucked up people practise it. But what the hell are we talking about, I mean their prophet was a tiran himself. If I were the President of Holland I would actually ban the koran from our country!

I'm sorry but I cannot debate with a closed minded extremist, so I shall have some fun and ridicule.

Sk

We fire a rocket at the enemy - you on the other hand (pardon the pun) attach yourselves to rocket and fire yourselves....
At what point (as you are propelled 500 feet into the air...scattering yourself over a wide area) do you think..."Dohhhhhhhhh!"

No need to watch the Show 'Bullshit', i just read your Replies
And to think we let them in the UK, so they can go around Preaching their Hatred against Westeners and Brainwashing their Kids whereas if we complained, we'd get called Racist.
Still, not their Fault, blame the Government for being too Soft.

zodio wrote:

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wildstallion2k wrote:

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No need to watch the Show 'Bullshit', i just read your Replies
And to think we let them in the UK, so they can go around Preaching their Hatred against Westeners and Brainwashing their Kids whereas if we complained, we'd get called Racist.
Still, not their Fault, blame the Government for being too Soft.

The thing that I'm debating here is the fact that you believe everything showed to you in the media, amidst the propaganda against the Arabs and Muslims in particular. All Muslims hate what Osama Bin Laden pulls out of his hat. All Muslims hate the cowards that blow themselves up amongst innocent people, no matter what. Fuck, they even attacked my country, and you think I'm an extremist who supports them? No. But I'm also not gonna stand by and watch you idiots generalize us all and brand us a reputation based on what you see being pulled off by those pigs. Learn to open your already fucking vacant minds, you mongrels. I don't hate Westerners, I just hate the imbecilic mentality that millions of them posess, much portrayed by you Neanderthals.

You're right...I am a Neanderthal...Guess i better get back to my Cave now

It's ok for me to critizise islam just as it is ok for me to critizise christianity - but let´s be honest: those political parties in Europe that campaign against "islamization" (for example the FPÖ in Austria or the Lega Nord in Italy) are not really concerned about religion and secularism and stuff ... their just want the dark-skinned immigrants out and they want their racist massage to sound more enlightened, that´s all.

wildstallion2k, how about you post the rest of the pictures? You know, the rest of the pictures where it shows the kid as O.K. after the truck ran his arm over? It was a STREET MAGIC SHOW. People have refuted the 'story' behind those dumb-ass pictures. Some of the people on this forum seriously are idiots. Don't believe everything you see.

See you are totally wrong. In western civilazation cartoon, satire and caricature has always been used as a form or critical analysis. It's so OBVIOUSLY not aimed at just pissing off a few retards from some underdeveloped country or some fanatial religeous mad men. Frankly we don't care! We don't care if it pisses you off! Despite what you may think, it wasn't done for you!
The fact that you think those very caricatures were printed soley to "piss people off" is laughable and arrogant beyond belief.
Muslims have threatened death for theatre, books, cartoons and words. Over here, our culture permits us to criticize - and criticism is healthy. It bothers many that we can do this - but I live in a county where I can hold my head high and say with pride - so what, I don't give a shit if it offends you, we wont stop with the "freedom of speech" thing...not for you, not for anyone.
Sk
P.S - a picture of Jesus with a turd on his head obviously would be just a childish attack! The bomb on old Mo's head was a legitimate comment about fundamentalist musilms. That said, if you did print a cartton of Jesus with a turn on his headm guess what - nobody here (Chritian or not) would care - hell, we would probably forgive you.
See that's what makes us diferent.

I've seen some pretty fucked up shit (including people being beheaded and mutilated.) Islam is definitely not a religion of peace; at least, not the Islam that is widely practiced.

I'm not saying all Muslims are like that, because there are some pretty fucked up Christians, too. But I don't see people being beheaded for going against Christian law, at least not anymore.

Do Christian parents kill teenage girls because they go out with someone they don't like, or lose their virginity? Are Christian women forced to wear head coverings and body coverings, to the point where you can't tell who is who?

Honor killings are a part of Muslim culture, and hundreds of innocent women are killed every year because of some sick, twisted religious rule. I don't see Christians or Jewish people doing honor killings.

Ironically, I always thought that the one thing Islam extremist did right was their punishment for crimes. Now I dont think a kid should have their arms cut off, but a teenager and up that is caught stealing should have a much more serious punishment than what is done in the states (of which I am a citizen btw). Something that at least would make them think twice about doing it. Whether it be straight up cutting a hand off or a whipping or something.


When my girlfriend was robbed recently I was planning on jumping the guy and cutting his hands off actually, luckily for him the cops got him first... I just hate the US law system so much, criminals walk free too often. Maybe it is just the vigilante in my heart.

Now at the same time, I feel that before such harsh punishments are delivered the law better be damn sure they have the right guy first. I find that to get to the source of things is very important before making judgment calls. For example the pirates who have been hijacking ships around Africa. I know most people in the world hate them, but did you know the main reason they do it is because Commercial fishing has taken their livelihoods? Most were just simple village fisherman working to support their families. These commercial liners dragged the ocean bottoms for miles out and took all their fish, they had nothing left. As an American, I can guarantee you that myself and any other Americans would do the same thing to anyone taking bread from their families mouths. So why do we hate them then?

All that being said, Middle Eastern Muslims that hate the Western world so much REALLY need to grow up and get educated. A paper in Denmark prints Mohmmad and they riot, kill, maim people, and chant Death the America (as if we had anything to do with it anyway).

its pointless and a waste of time engaging people like 'zodio' in conversations regarding matters like these, when clearly they harbour such extreme and incompatible views/outlooks on things as we do in life.

the bottom line - avoid them like the plague, do not engage such numbskulls in debates and convos.

let them blow each other up like theyre doing in paksitan, afghanistan and iraq.

god is indeed great. but you are not.


since the inception of islam - it has brought nothing but pain,suffernig and misery to other races/ethnic groups/faiths

We need not debate about what is the truth, as the truth is alone and unique and that sis all there is to it. It is there - for all to see.


no more b/s about what the prophet of islam did, or didnt do - all we can say is that, hes the 'role model' for male muslims on earth.

now, how many male muslims on earth are actualy worthy role models or, dare i say it - ,genuinely decent human beings ?

look at how they conduct themselves in society in general.


Islam is an aggressive, assertive and cruel faith to its followers and to other faiths too.


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Robert1899 wrote:

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When you check the bible You'll find lots of cruel and barbaric laws and punishments too! Both, the bible and the koran need to be seen within their historical context of late antiquity and the early middle ages. What´s really dividing the modern western world from the muslim world is not us having the better religion, but us having removed religion from the legal and educational system over the last 200 years.

It's ok for me to critizise islam just as it is ok for me to critizise christianity - but let´s be honest: those political parties in Europe that campaign against "islamization" (for example the FPÖ in Austria or the Lega Nord in Italy) are not really concerned about religion and secularism and stuff ... their just want the dark-skinned immigrants out and they want their racist massage to sound more enlightened, that´s all.

but in the bible there is nothing about 'beheading all those who dont believe - kill the infidel where you find him - slay him - take his women as war booty etc etc'

Christ was , 'in hisotrical context' a lot less 'violent' ...than the prophet muhammad.

read the two fucking books ffs

jesus didnt command armies or slay ppl with swords.


he died for our sins.


let us not evade the obvious.

realbaresoles wrote:

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Meanwhile look at the Hebrew letters on the images. Gee, I wonder who distributed those images? Possibly someone who wants to demonize the Muslim world so that they can continue to steal land belonging to Muslims?

There's a whole Zionist propaganda machine in America too, people whose job it is to get up in the morning and villify Muslims and Islam. Examples: Debie Schlosser, Daniel Pipes. This makes it easier to get billions of dollars from American taxpayers to help support and expand the Israeli apartheid state. Much of the Christians vs. Muslims thing has been orchestrated by zionists because it benefits Israel.

(ps: those same people brought you the Iraq war. The people who peddled the war most aggressively were zionist hawks who wanted Saddam out because he supported Palestinian resistance. So the American and British soldiers are fighting and dying in Iraq for Israel.)

One thing they do is distort Arab opinion. There are almost two billion Arabs in the world, and naturally there are going to be crazy extremists amongst them. What they do not show is that the average Muslim is not too different from the average Christian, with pretty moderate views, and at least as courteous and gracious as your average Christian, Jew, Hindu, etc. (Anyone who's ever been a guest in a Muslim home knows what I mean. If they have one small sweet you as the guest get it.)

There are extremists in America as well, and in every other country. Usually people turn to extremism when they have been marginalized (it's a fact) so it is definitely an issue in the Muslim world, but not just there. Israel is a country that rounds up hundreds of "likely suspects" and tortures them in case they know something, and America did that too in Iraq (Abu Ghraib, anyone?). So no one has a corner on brutal treatment.

Finally, something to consider -- I think many of the people who shout loudest about Muslim barbarity would love to practice a lot of what the handful of extremist Muslim governments do, once you remove the Muslim element. "If someone steals something I think his hand should be cut off!" "A rapist should have his dick cut off!" I hear conservatives in America say stuff just like that all the time. (Some of them apparently think they are justified in murdering abortion doctors too -- so much for the Muslim lock on extremism.) But now that it's Muslims saying it, it's barbarous!

great speach buddy.


but remember, the sinister motives of islam are indeed to expand and gain as much territory on earth and to spread their religion across the planet through W/E necessary means - including the sword.

the muslims my friend, in general unable to think outside of the big black box I call 'narrow mindedness and ignorance'.

they seem to think that nothing about their faith or their beliefs is questionable, whilst we are in the wrong.

name me one fucking islamic republic/nation on this fucking planet that is the epitome of 'modernity' and 'progression' , none spring to mind.

why ? cos they are fanatics beyond imagination.

whilst i acknowledge your grief and plight for the palestinian people, also acknolwedge the grief and plight of millions of christians who have either been slain, driven out of their homes in and around the world where islam is in majority. Every fucking territorial dispute since the 1940's involves and islamic entity, and its pathetic.

I bet if the palestinians got the entire Israel - there would be a new 'conflict' which would fill in that void, Kashmir maybe ?

who knows. the point is - for every far left libertard out there who blows his anti war trumpet and succumbs to the political correctness bug, there are 100 intelligent decisive beings who will THWART any b/s attempt of islamification of the globe. nobody wants it, i dont want it and the majority of ppl on this board dont fucking want it.

you can stick your anti war propaganda b/s right up your ass mate, fuck off cos its offensive already.

dont try to educate ppl about how we're all wrong and theyre all right.

that is b/s of the highest magnititude. Read historical texts and accounts of islamic invasions across europe and the asian sub continent. They were barbaric then and theyre barbaric now.

they call us all infidels ffs.


maybe its time the islamic world set their calenders to 2010 AD instead of 2010 BC ?

Chinwa wrote:

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What do you mean "Healthy critical analysis in the form of a caricature"?

Everyone, including the person who made that disgusting picture, knows GOOD and WELL that said picture was made solely to piss people off. That'd be like me drawing a picture of Jesus (peace be upon him) with a turd on his head, and then claiming that it was "Healthy critical analysis". Now, I'd never do that being a Muslim, but for you to claim that the caricature was "Healthy critical analysis" is intellectually dishonest. Plain and simple.

i thought that was pointless, and insenstive as well as pretty stupid on the part of those danish publishers.

those cartoons offended people who observed their faith correctly.

it was a select few hotheads who took it up onthemselves, to attack embassies across the globe whilst chanting anti-western slogans.

Those ppl are the lowest of the low - and harbour ill will towards all that is good in humanity.

Each time they rear their ugly heads, its good for the media and the world because it makes us aware that there are idiots like this who think they follow islam but obviously are not and are giving the religion a bad name.

freedom of speach and civil liberties is one thing, but abusing it and mocking others is another.

So NO - i dont think those cartoons should ever have been published in the first place, theyre defaming and disgusting and I can't BLAME some muslims for being EXTREMELY bitter about that incident, and wanting blood for it.

those danish publishers should have been put behind bars or relieved of their duties - and deemed unfit fortheir jobs.

but remember, the sinister motives of islam are indeed to expand and gain as much territory on earth and to spread their religion across the planet through W/E necessary means - including the sword.

the muslims my friend, in general unable to think outside of the big black box I call 'narrow mindedness and ignorance'.

they seem to think that nothing about their faith or their beliefs is questionable, whilst we are in the wrong.

name me one fucking islamic republic/nation on this fucking planet that is the epitome of 'modernity' and 'progression' , none spring to mind.

why ? cos they are fanatics beyond imagination.

whilst i acknowledge your grief and plight for the palestinian people, also acknolwedge the grief and plight of millions of christians who have either been slain, driven out of their homes in and around the world where islam is in majority. Every fucking territorial dispute since the 1940's involves and islamic entity, and its pathetic.

I bet if the palestinians got the entire Israel - there would be a new 'conflict' which would fill in that void, Kashmir maybe ?

who knows. the point is - for every far left libertard out there who blows his anti war trumpet and succumbs to the political correctness bug, there are 100 intelligent decisive beings who will THWART any b/s attempt of islamification of the globe. nobody wants it, i dont want it and the majority of ppl on this board dont fucking want it.

you can stick your anti war propaganda b/s right up your ass mate, fuck off cos its offensive already.

dont try to educate ppl about how we're all wrong and theyre all right.

that is b/s of the highest magnititude. Read historical texts and accounts of islamic invasions across europe and the asian sub continent. They were barbaric then and theyre barbaric now.

they call us all infidels ffs.


maybe its time the islamic world set their calenders to 2010 AD instead of 2010 BC ?
You seem narrow minded in your view of Muslims ... as narrow minded and miseducated as you claim them to be.

Sinister motives of Islam you say?? I can think of countless examples where people of various cultures and creeds want to conquer others.

But i know that it's not cultures or religions that are sinister. What's sinister is people.

Islamification of the world? Dude, what century are YOU living in? It sounds like you're living in 1190 AD and ready to go on a crusade to defend the holy land.

But hey whatever man. Do your thing. Continue to put whole groups of people and religions in boxes if it makes life simple for you.

Organized religion at large is bullshit, and it goes double for any religion whose holy book can be interpreted in such a way that it would justify genocide.

Oddly enough, there are very few instances of Catholics blowing themselves up to kill non-Catholics, Protestants opening random fire upon non-Protestants, and Jews stuffing their underpants with explosives to take down passenger airplanes.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but so far, all recent terrorists have been Muslims. Moreover, I am still waiting for the LOUD and UNIVERSAL condemnation of atrocities committed by extremists in the name of Islam by Muslims at large. Something tells me I needn't hold my breath.

That is all the proof I need to establish my opinion of Islam. Not even accounting for the fact that Mohammed was a tyrant who raped and murdered his way to power.