mojofoot13 Joined: 2002-09-03 Posts: 1,011 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
They might as well just go ahead and name the winner of the SEC Championship game; National Champions and get it over with. | ||
Wanocki Joined: 2008-01-04 Posts: 795 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
conference bias
you can argue they deserved it this year but how is a 1 loss florida team or even a 2 loss LSU team more deserving than others? why was usc's loss last year "worse" than florida's loss? how anybody can actually believe that deciding a champion with a coaches poll and computers is a "good system" is mind boggling mccoy's injury is proof that you need to play the games, injuries are a huge part of the game and you can't just look at a team on paper and say "this is the best team" | ||
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mojofoot13 Joined: 2002-09-03 Posts: 1,011 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
Well let's look at what a one loss Florida team did to an undefeated number three ranked Cincinnati. Texas had the nations number one rush defense only allowing 64 yards per game. Not only did Alabama's first string running back shred them for over 100 yards, their second string running back also hung over 100 yards on them.
Sure it is easy to show up at the end of the season when you have only played one or two ranked team all year long. Alabama played six ranked teams this year. Let's let Boise State play a schedule with the likes of Georgia, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Ole Miss, Auburn, Arkansas, and Tennessee; instead of Miami of Ohio, Freseno State, Bowling Green, UC Davis (have you ever heard of UC Davis before?) Tulsa, San Jose State, Louisanna Tech, Idaho, Utah State, Nevada and New Mexico State. Do you really believe that Boise could go through a conference schedule in the SEC undefeated? Sure they may coast through that cup cake schedule and show up rested and healthy and beat an SEC team in one game in a bowl game. What I am talking about is grinding it out week after week against these teams. How many people out side of the SEC knows that Alabama's quarter back Greg McElroy played in the National Championship game with cracked ribs? Guess where they got cracked, playing Florida. | ||
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mojofoot13 Joined: 2002-09-03 Posts: 1,011 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
Not only did Alabama play six ranked teams they played the Number one team, the number two team, the number four team and the number six team in the country when they played Alabama.
So it wasn't even like they were playing ranked teams that were barely in the top 25. | ||
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Wanocki Joined: 2008-01-04 Posts: 795 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
i'm not saying boise state could beat any sec team, i'm saying we need a playoff
this is one of the few years where "probably" the best team won the title everybody had 2005 usc as the "best team ever" before playing texas, 2002 miami "could beat the cincinnati bengals" before losing to ohio state 2004 auburn is one of two sec teams to go undefeated this decade, they never got a shot at this mythical title my point is it is ridiculous to look at teams on paper, say "they beat so and so ranked team" and then crown them "best team in the league" playoffs work in every other league, it's been 6 years since the team in the nfl with the best record won the super bowl (03 pats) i don't think it's crazy to actually decide things on the field, rather than having the same argument and empty feeling every year the system can actually crown 2 champions, tell me that isn't insane | ||
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mojofoot13 Joined: 2002-09-03 Posts: 1,011 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
My only argument against a play off system is that it would make the regular season unimportant. And you would still have the issue of teams from physical conferences being banged up and injured by the time they reached the playoffs.
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Wanocki Joined: 2008-01-04 Posts: 795 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
so do you think the nfl regular season is unimportant? the ratings say they are pretty important
c'mon dude that's what the BCS fat heads want college football fans to think, do you really prefer papa john's pizza bowls and meineke car care bowls over playoffs? college football is the only sport that makes fans and teams feel like "champions" even though they finished ranked behind several other teams, the whole system is a fucking joke and a sham, it's like little league where everybody gets a trophy how about waiting 4 - 6 weeks to play these glorified exhibiton games? A JOKE!!!! and like i said before injuries are a part of the game of football, the best team should have depth and the way those powerhouse sec teams recruit they shouldn't have to worry about depth | ||
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mojofoot13 Joined: 2002-09-03 Posts: 1,011 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
Well think about this, the second week of college football next year we can watch the 2009 National Champion Alabama play the Big Ten Powerhouse Penn State. Of course this is a non-conference game for these teams, but wow what a game for week two.
Of course if there was a play off; why would these schools schedule a game like this during the regular season? What you would have is Alabama playing East Atlanta High School, and Penn State Playing Western Virginia Community College. Why should they play each other during the regular season? What would they gain? If there was a play off the only goal would be to beat your conference opponents and play the easiest non-conference schedule possible to make it to the end of the season unbeaten. Strength of schedule would mean absolutely nothing. The current system encourages teams to play tough teams as part of the non-conference schedule. If they don't they risk being on the outside looking in just like the 2004 Auburn Tigers, because they did not play quality opponents. I caution people that are asking for a play off to really think about the regular season. In my opinion college football is the greatest game going. Much better than the Pros. A play off system, other than a plus one, will essentially kill strenght of schedule and in the end, will bring college football down to the level of the NFL. | ||
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Mistress Andrea211 Joined: 2006-11-04 Posts: 745 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
I say we need a 4 or maybe 8 team playoff but no more than that. As far as this year goes, congrats to Alabama. They deserved to win the title as the system is right now. My personal belief is that Florida was the best team in the nation but Alabama caught them on an off day. It happens. I think if those two teams played the best of 7, Florida would win in 6. But my real gripe is with the final rankings. I'm not saying Boise could go undefeated in the SEC but how the hell they wound up ranked as low as 4 with a 14-0 record, the nations highest rated QB, and a win over an undefeated TCU in the Fiesta Bowl is beyond me. I would never have ranked Texas, who to me was about as unimpressive all year as it gets, ahead of Boise State. Possibly Florida based on talent alone but at the lowest they should have been 3rd.
Oh and one more thought. As far as Miami losing in 2002 to Ohio State, that only happened due to one of the all time biggest bullshit calls ever made in sports, the phantom holding or PI call at the end of the game as Miami won their second straight title. Whoever threw that flag on that night should have been permanently banned from ever referring a game again. It's one thing to miss a call but to totally make one up out of the blue is unforgivable.  (and I'm NOT a Miami fan) | ||
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Wanocki Joined: 2008-01-04 Posts: 795 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
mojofoot13 wrote: we won't need to have "great" non conference games if there is a playoff because these teams will meet in a playoff game eliminate the games that you mentioned against cream puffs, eliminate the non conference games, take each conference champ and a couple 2nd place finishers and you have a good playoff system what "great teams" did texas and alabama play out of conference? NOBODY, auburn didn't play for the title because usc and oklahoma had higher preseason rankings and didn't lose a game all season, it had nothing to do with out of conference schedule bring college football down to the level of the nfl???? the nfl is only the biggest and most profitable sport in the country, last weeks playoff games all scored better ratings than the national title game | ||
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Wanocki Joined: 2008-01-04 Posts: 795 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
Mistress Andrea211 wrote: i agree it was a bullshit call but the team that "could beat the cincinnati bengals" should've been able to overcome one bad call, that's why we need to have a playoff system rather than looking at teams on paper and deciding they are better or worse than another team if the nfl ran a bcs system, the 07 patriots would maybe be remembered as the best team ever and the giants never would've had a chance to play them | ||
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Mistress Andrea211 Joined: 2006-11-04 Posts: 745 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
It just shows that anybody can beat any team on a given day. I seriously doubt there's anyone who thinks the Giants were actually better than the Patriots a couple years ago. On that day they played slightly better if at all and were one lucky ass catch away from losing.
The thing about the Miami - Ohio State game was when the bullshit call happened. The game was over and Miami was already on the field celebrating when that fucking cock sucker threw the flag. Anyone would be demoralized at that point and also Ken Dorsey got hurt in OT. I simply will never give Ohio State credit for winning that game. As for the people who like to say that Miami or any other great college football team could beat any pro team, it's fucking ludicrous. Possibly in baseball or basketball it could conceivably happen but no matter how bad an NFL team is they'd massacre a college team. Any college team. The NFL schemes are so complicated that college KIDS would be blown away. Not to mention the physical strength of grown men compared to 18, 19 and 20 year old boys. | ||
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Wanocki Joined: 2008-01-04 Posts: 795 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
exactly any team on any given day can win, that is why it is stupid to have computers and opinions decide who the champion is
if miami deserved to win that game they never should've let ohio state score as much as they did, no game is lost based on one play nobody actually believed miami would beat the bengals, saying that they "could beat the bengals" was just peoples way of saying that they were one of the elite college teams we've ever seen | ||
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Mistress Andrea211 Joined: 2006-11-04 Posts: 745 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
I think there are several people who do believe a great college football team could beat a bad NFL team. Anyway, why don't you come over here and let me tie you up and give you a ruined orgasm young man.
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Wanocki Joined: 2008-01-04 Posts: 795 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
nobody ruins my orgasms, little girl
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Mistress Andrea211 Joined: 2006-11-04 Posts: 745 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
Ruining orgasms are my specialty though it's what I do to girls. Tie them up, tease them and just as the orgasm begins is when I stop. I'd do it to you too and you'd have the same look as your avatar.
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hitwskindig Joined: 2009-09-12 Posts: 2 Files: 0 Thanked: 0 Downloaded: 0 Uploaded: 0 |
Texas was pushing bama's shit early before McCoy went out. Texas then conceded the entire second quarter as their 19-year-old true freshman quarterback with 20 career attempts came off the bench and handed the ball all but 2 plays, one of which was dropped in the bama end zone. Texas erased a 24-6 halfttime deficit, made a 2-point conversion with 5 minutes left to bring the score to 24-21, and the entire bama nation, at the rose bowl, and on tv, were scared shitless. Texas outgained Bama 275 to 255 total yards. Bama's qb completed 5 passes for 50 yards. Bama special teams were a complete disaster. SEC! SEC! SEC! | ||
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